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Question about library intensity for small molecule transition list

Hello, I am investigating Skyline's small molecule interface for our metabolomics data processing workflow. I am new to Skyline, so I apologize if this question has been asked and answered. I am interested in importing an assay library (or transition list) with retention times and relative fragment intensities. So far, I can successfully import a transition list with these fields: PrecursorName,...

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Using Skyline to Quantify Drug Metabolizing Enzymes and Transporters in Sandwich-Cultured Human Hepatocytes Exposed to Pregnancy Related Hormones Muluneh M Fashe, Taryn A Miner, John K Fallon, Philip C. Smith, Craig R Lee Eshelman School of Pharmacy, UNC Chapel Hill, NC Funding: R01 HD098742 Impact of pregnancy on the expression of drug metabolism enzymes and transporters  Pregnancy alters...

610 : Fix MaxQuant library builder to extract original spectra from source data files

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2018-11-12
2019-01-16
It has been pointed out many times over many years now that the MaxQuant Andromeda output BiblioSpec uses for spectra in its spectral libraries (found in the msms.txt file) are actually isotope deconvoluted spectra and not the original raw spectra. This is not a huge problem for doubly charged precursors where doubly charged fragments are infrequent, but with triply charged and higher it becomes a bigger problem.

For a number of years, we have hoped the MaxQuant team would offer us a solution that would provide the raw spectra in the msms.txt file, but this has not happened, and both MaxQuant and Skyline have become more popular, along with DIA methods that rely heavily on library spectra.

So, we need to fix the MaxQuant parser in BiblioSpec to get its spectra from the source data files and error if they cannot be found, as we do for other results parsers, such as pepXML and mzIdentML. We should leave the code in place to get spectra from msms.txt for when/if we get a better solution from MaxQuant. Though, even then, we will want to keep code for returning to source files in order to handle MaxQuant results that are either older or just don't contain raw spectra for some reason.
You mention erroring if the source data files can't be found, but what if the source data is inaccessible? Like, for the 2 existing MQ unit tests. I can't find sources for either D20110201_Exp2_TBK1 or JD071913. And certainly users could have data they want to import which they don't have the raw data for anymore. So perhaps make the error optional but make erroring the default?
Hmmm. Good point. Skyline doesn't have a great way of dealing with this type of extra option for a specific file type, since it now handles around 20+ different search pipelines. Perhaps we could force users to rename the "msms.txt" file to indicate that it should be allowed to build without raw data? Maybe "msms-deconv.txt"? To indicate that the user wants to build a library with the isotope deconvoluted spectra?
Doesn't seem like a very user friendly option by itself. In addition to that, we could add a custom dialog for the error message BiblioSpec gives for MQ files it can't find sources for. It would tell the user where to put the raw files, but if they don't have access to them, it would offer to rename the input file and rerun the import.
Well, if we are going to go that far, we could just make it a command-line option on BlibBuild and switch to using it based on the user feedback.
That's reasonable too. Like --preferEmbeddedSpectra . It could also apply to other formats, although perhaps not on first implementation.

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Skyline Licence Agreement

I work within a commercial sector for a large biopharmaceutical CDMO company and I finally have a project where I could utilise Skyline software. I would like to set up a PRM method within my lab for a project I am working on. I would like to check with Skyline if there are any legal restrictions on the use of the software from a commercial or industry perspective? Are you aware if the software is...

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Metabolite Profiling for Synthetic Biology using Ion Mobility-Mass Spectrometry and Data-Independent Acquisition with Improved Targeted Data Extraction Software Aivett Bilbao Computational Scientist, Environmental and Molecular Science Laboratory, PNNL Skyline User Group Meeting Online May 27, 2020 Aivett Bilbao Design, Build, Test, Learn (DBTL) workflow for biomanufacturing research with...

Problems with relative quantification

Hi to everyone, I have to calculate the relative quantification of three proteins in five patients before and after a treatment. I have the peptide modified sequence and the PRM raw data. I don't have any internal standard heavy peptides. I know that each peptide was added at the same amount in each sample. I have to perform the relative quantification, for each protein of interest, comparing the...

Not able to install Skyline

Dear Brendan, It is not possible for me to install Skyline because of the following error: "Cannot Start Application" 'Cannot download the application. The application is missing required files. Contact application vendor for assistance.' Can you please provide us with an installation file so we don't have to download first? Thanks. Maarten Hi Maarten, Which browsers have you tried...

Group Comparison with multiple parameter

Hello everybody, I am trying to set up a group comparison were I want to compare a treatment vs a control at several time points in triplicates which I annotated . However, the group comparison only allows for annotation of 2 parameters such as treatment vs control and replicate, leaving me no option to also select the time points. Is there a way how I could overcome this and combine the analysis...

Fill-in Transition List Table Gone?

Hello, I am new to Skyline and have just been using the PRM Small Molecules mode. I usually just fill in the transition list table after going to edit>insert>transition list but after updating to the 64bit 24.2 when I go to insert my transition list the only option I have is to paste it in. Is there a way to get the table back so I can directly fill in? Thanks, Kat ^ I second this, please add...

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Stephen Pennington, Ph.D.

  Stephen Pennington, Ph.D., Steve is currently Professor of Proteomics in the UCD Conway Institute of Biomolecular and Biomedical Research at University College Dublin. He graduated from Imperial College of Science and Technology (University of London) with a joint honours degree (Chemistry and Biochemistry) before completing a PhD in Biochemistry and taking up Elmore Medical Research Fellowship...

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Rapid Sample Preprocessing of Large Number of Targeted Metabolites with Skyline Virag Sagi-Kiss Bundy Lab Biomolecular Medicine, Imperial College London, London, UK Skyline User Group Meeting Online Oct 27, 2021 Targeted Metabolomics – for small polar molecules Relative quantification In-house library building: 300+ analytes with IROA MSMLS (600 compounds) 3 LC methods, 2 MS: ...

Thermo Raw files import speed

Dear Skyline Team, We are testing our new cluster to make it perform optimally for various tasks including Skyline (Skyline Daly). To this end we have compared import time of the same raw DIA Thermo files stored either on high-speed network or on the cluster’s local SSD and, second, did the same test with a single desktop (raw files on local SSD vs high-speed network, less cores and less RAM than...

SkylineRunner not finding Skyline

When I tried to run SkylineRunner I get error: Error: Unable to find Skyline program at any of the following locations: C:\Users\Tomas\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\MacCoss Lab, UW\Skyline-daily.appref-ms C:\Users\Tomas\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Skyline-daily\Skyline-daily.appref-ms c:\Bin\Skyline-daily.exe It appears that I do have Skyline-daily...

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Extending Targeted Mass Spectrometry to Monitor Neuropeptide Signaling and Phosphorylation Thierry Schmidlin Fifth Annual Skyline User Group Meeting June 5, 2016 Example study 1: Diet-induced neuropeptide expression profiling in rat 1) Biosynthesis 2) Physicochemical Properties TLQPPASSRRRHFHHALPPARHHPDLEAQAR RAQEEADAEERRLQEQEELENYIEHVLLHRP YGGFM 3) Data Analysis Presenter Presentation...

Processing files for histone PTM analysis using .d files

Dear support team, Recently I sent trypsin-digested propionylated mouse histones for mass spectrometry using different treatments, and want to ultimately quantify if I can see changes in any/certain histone PTMs (Like H3K27me3) between my treatments. Additionally, some samples were propionylated using deuterium-labelled propionic anhydride, and the peptides should therefore have a slightly changed...

"Failed importing results...the calculator requires all targets list in order to determine a regression."

Hi Skyline Team, I have been trying to develop a PRM method for a targeted DIA experiment in skyline. I have eight targets of interest which have been built into a transition list, but I do not expect all my samples to have all 8 of these targets. I have been successful in building the calibration curves from spectra for my targets and setting up the iRT calculator, however, when attempting to upload...

04-Bons.pdf

Confidential - Company Proprietary ZenoTOF 7600 System Acquisitions with Electron Activated Dissociation and Novel Skyline Features for Quantification of Protein PTMs Joanna Bons, Rita Chupalov, Jordan B. Burton, Jacob Rose, Jason Causon, Alexandra Antonoplis, Christie Hunter, Brendan MacLean, Birgit Schilling Skyline User Group Meeting - ASMS June 5, 2022 Confidential - Company Proprietary...

importing transition lists in TraML format

Hi Brendan, is there a way to import TraML-formated transition lists into skyline? I downloaded the following lists from a recent Aebersold lab publication: http://www.mcponline.org/content/14/10/2800/suppl/DC1 but it seems like skyline only accepts csv/tab separated transition list. I am a little surprise, since TraML is an official HUPO format: http://www.psidev.info/traml In case...